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Changes for page Common Arguments

Last modified by Ryan C on 2025/08/18 01:13

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  {{expandable summary="We will all become one uniform Mixed Race"}}
--Claim: Over time, humanity will homogenize into one race of mixed-race individuals due to globalization and intermixing.
++**Claim: **Over time, humanity will homogenize into one race of mixed-race individuals due to globalization and intermixing.
--Rebuttal:
++**Rebuttal:**
--Blending into one race assumes uniform mixing across all populations, which is unlikely due to societal, cultural, and geographical barriers.
--Historical evidence shows that distinct ethnic groups have maintained separate identities for millennia despite some intermixing.
--High birth rates among certain populations mean some ethnic groups will likely persist as dominant demographics in specific regions.
++* Blending into one race assumes uniform mixing across all populations, which is unlikely due to societal, cultural, and geographical barriers.
++* Historical evidence shows that distinct ethnic groups have maintained separate identities for millennia despite some intermixing.
++* High birth rates among certain populations mean some ethnic groups will likely persist as dominant demographics in specific regions.
++
  Explanation: The idea that humanity will blend into one homogenous race oversimplifies the reality of demographic trends. Different populations have maintained their distinct identities for centuries, even under conditions of migration and intermixing. For example, despite centuries of migration into Europe, distinct ethnicities like the Basques or Sami people still exist. Additionally, demographic trends show that fertility rates vary significantly across groups, meaning some populations grow faster than others. For instance, many African and Middle Eastern countries have much higher birth rates than Europe or East Asia, making a global "blending" implausible. Societies naturally form cultural and ethnic distinctions, even when migration occurs
  [[See also: White Genocide for statistics on this>>doc:Main Categories.Race.White Genocide.WebHome]]
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  {{expandable summary="We can't alienate potential non-white voters."}}
  **Claim**: We must avoid alienating potential non-white voters.
  **Rebuttal:**
--Appeasing non-white voters cannot come at the expense of White survival.
--Political strategies do not justify policies that enable or excuse White demographic replacement.
--A policy that alienates Whites in their own countries is inherently illegitimate, regardless of electoral calculus.
--Explanation: Framing White survival as secondary to vote-getting assumes that demographics are expendable for politics. Survival is not negotiable; “votes” cannot justify population displacement or replacement.
++* Appeasing non-white voters cannot come at the expense of White survival.
++* Political strategies do not justify policies that enable or excuse White demographic replacement.
++* A policy that alienates Whites in their own countries is inherently illegitimate, regardless of electoral calculus.
++
++**Explanation:** Framing White survival as secondary to vote-getting assumes that demographics are expendable for politics. Survival is not negotiable; “votes” cannot justify population displacement or replacement.
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  {{expandable summary="Whites stole America."}}
@@ -499,9 +499,10 @@
  * If land ownership is illegitimate, then no one can accuse Whites of stealing.
  * If land can be stolen, then borders and ownership clearly exist, making conquest legitimate.
++* Anti-White rhetoric contradicts itself depending on which argument is convenient.
--Anti-White rhetoric contradicts itself depending on which argument is convenient.
--Explanation: This reveals the agenda: delegitimizing White presence regardless of logic. It is not a principled stance, but a targeted attack.
++**Explanation:**
++This reveals the agenda: delegitimizing White presence regardless of logic. It is not a principled stance, but a targeted attack.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="Conquest is universal, Whites have equal right."}}
@@ -510,9 +510,10 @@
  * Conquest is how nearly all nations formed, across all races.
  * Whites are singled out while non-White conquests (Turks in Constantinople, Bantus in southern Africa) are ignored.
++* If conquest is universal, Whites’ claim is as legitimate as anyone else’s.
--If conquest is universal, Whites’ claim is as legitimate as anyone else’s.
--Explanation: History cannot be selectively weaponized only against Whites.
++**Explanation: **
++History cannot be selectively weaponized only against Whites.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="Saying Whites stole America admits it is White."}}
@@ -522,6 +522,7 @@
  * If Whites stole it, then it is by definition a White country now.
  * Diversity did not “steal” America; conquest and settlement did.
++**Explanation:**
  The rhetoric inadvertently admits the truth of ownership and establishment.
  Explanation: To claim theft is to admit transfer of possession. By their own words, America is a White nation.
  {{/expandable}}
@@ -532,8 +532,9 @@
  * If occupation is illegitimate, the moral solution is to vacate stolen land.
  * Those who denounce Whites while living here prove they do not believe their own claim.
++* Consistency would demand that anti-White activists leave America entirely.
--Consistency would demand that anti-White activists leave America entirely.
++**Explanation:**
  Explanation: Hypocrisy shows their aim is not justice but targeting Whites.
  {{/expandable}}
@@ -543,9 +543,10 @@
  * Welfare statistics do not justify demographic replacement.
  * Whites paying into the system far exceed non-Whites, meaning redistribution favors others.
++* Poverty does not make a people disposable.
--Poverty does not make a people disposable.
--Explanation: Welfare arguments are red herrings; they distract from the core issue of survival.
++**Explanation:**
++Welfare arguments are red herrings; they distract from the core issue of survival.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="Whites have no culture."}}
@@ -554,8 +554,9 @@
  * Western civilization is one of the richest cultural traditions in history.
  * Claiming a people “doesn’t exist” is a known genocidal tactic.
++* Denying identity is a step toward justifying elimination.
--Denying identity is a step toward justifying elimination.
++**Explanation:**
  Explanation: Delegitimizing culture is psychological warfare. It is proof of genocidal intent.
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@@ -565,8 +565,9 @@
  * Globalists are dangerous, but they target Whites specifically for elimination.
  * White nations must first secure survival before joining broader struggles.
++* Concern trolling about “globalists” is used to divert attention from White genocide
--Concern trolling about “globalists” is used to divert attention from White genocide.
++**Explanation:**
  Explanation: Global battles cannot be fought if Whites are erased. Survival comes before coalition.
  {{/expandable}}
@@ -574,22 +574,12 @@
  **Claim: **Whites must go back to Europe.
  **Rebuttal:**
--By that logic, all non-Whites should leave Europe.
++* By that logic, all non-Whites should leave Europe.
++* Should Turks leave Constantinople? Should Bantus vacate southern Africa? Should tribes vacate lands they conquered?
++* Conquest and migration are universal; only Whites are told to leave.
++* Explanation: The “go back” demand is not about fairness, but about dispossessing Whites uniquely. Do you think all non-whites should leave Europe?
--Should Turks leave Constantinople? Should Bantus vacate southern Africa? Should tribes vacate lands they conquered?
--
--Conquest and migration are universal; only Whites are told to leave.
--Explanation: The “go back” demand is not about fairness, but about dispossessing Whites uniquely.
++**Explanation:**
++Do you think all non-Siberians should leave America?
++All races have conquered land. Whites have as much right to land they conquered as every other race. Should Turks give Constantinople back to the white people they stole it from? Should Congoids give back the land they stole from Capoids in southern Africa? Should Ojibwe give back land they stole from Lakota?
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--
--{{expandable summary="Conquest is consistent across races."}}
--Claim: Whites stole land, unlike others.
--Rebuttal:
--
--Turks stole Constantinople from Whites.
--
--Bantus stole southern Africa from Capoids.
--
--Ojibwe stole from Lakota, who stole from others.
--Explanation: Conquest is universal. Singling out Whites exposes bias, not principle.
--{{/expandable}}