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Changes for page Common Arguments

Last modified by Ryan C on 2025/08/18 01:13

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  {{expandable summary="Would Christ turn away sufferers?"}}
--**Claim: **It's not Chrtistianlike to prioritize race
++**Claim:**It's not Chrtistianlike to prioritize race
  **Rebuttal:**
  * Aren't Jews Gods chosen people? Didn't he give them Israel?
@@ -475,104 +475,124 @@
  {{expandable summary="We can't alienate potential non-white voters."}}
  **Claim**: We must avoid alienating potential non-white voters.
  **Rebuttal:**
--Appeasing non-white voters cannot come at the expense of White survival.
--Political strategies do not justify policies that enable or excuse White demographic replacement.
++*Appeasing non-white voters cannot come at the expense of White survival.
++*Political strategies do not justify policies that enable or excuse White demographic replacement.
  A policy that alienates Whites in their own countries is inherently illegitimate, regardless of electoral calculus.
  Explanation: Framing White survival as secondary to vote-getting assumes that demographics are expendable for politics. Survival is not negotiable; “votes” cannot justify population displacement or replacement.
  {{/expandable}}
++{{expandable summary="“For votes” doesn’t justify genocidal policies."}}
++Claim: Vote-getting justifies demographic policies.
++Rebuttal:
++
++A vote motive does not excuse replacement or dispossession.
++
++No political system is legitimate if it requires destroying its founding people.
++
++Claiming “votes” is a distraction from the reality of demographic attack.
++Explanation: Political expediency is not a moral shield. Policies leading to White decline remain genocidal regardless of intent.
++{{/expandable}}
++
  {{expandable summary="Whites stole America."}}
--**Claim**: Whites stole America.
--**Rebuttal:**
++Claim: Whites stole America.
++Rebuttal:
--* All peoples have conquered land; conquest is universal in history.
--* Native tribes themselves displaced, fought, and exterminated one another long before Europeans arrived.
++All peoples have conquered land; conquest is universal in history.
++Native tribes themselves displaced, fought, and exterminated one another long before Europeans arrived.
++
  Calling White conquest “theft” implies illegitimacy, but never applies that label to non-Whites doing the same.
  Explanation: If conquest voids legitimacy, then no nation or people can claim land. Singling out Whites is hypocrisy.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="Contradictory anti-White logic on land and borders."}}
--**Claim: **Whites stole land, yet borders don’t exist.
--**Rebuttal:**
++Claim: Whites stole land, yet borders don’t exist.
++Rebuttal:
--* If land ownership is illegitimate, then no one can accuse Whites of stealing.
--* If land can be stolen, then borders and ownership clearly exist, making conquest legitimate.
++If land ownership is illegitimate, then no one can accuse Whites of stealing.
++If land can be stolen, then borders and ownership clearly exist, making conquest legitimate.
++
  Anti-White rhetoric contradicts itself depending on which argument is convenient.
  Explanation: This reveals the agenda: delegitimizing White presence regardless of logic. It is not a principled stance, but a targeted attack.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="Conquest is universal, Whites have equal right."}}
--**Claim: **Whites conquered America, making it illegitimate.
--**Rebuttal:**
++Claim: Whites conquered America, making it illegitimate.
++Rebuttal:
--* Conquest is how nearly all nations formed, across all races.
--* Whites are singled out while non-White conquests (Turks in Constantinople, Bantus in southern Africa) are ignored.
++Conquest is how nearly all nations formed, across all races.
++Whites are singled out while non-White conquests (Turks in Constantinople, Bantus in southern Africa) are ignored.
++
  If conquest is universal, Whites’ claim is as legitimate as anyone else’s.
  Explanation: History cannot be selectively weaponized only against Whites.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="Saying Whites stole America admits it is White."}}
--**Claim: **Whites stole America.
--**Rebuttal:**
++Claim: Whites stole America.
++Rebuttal:
--* If Whites stole it, then it is by definition a White country now.
--* Diversity did not “steal” America; conquest and settlement did.
++If Whites stole it, then it is by definition a White country now.
++Diversity did not “steal” America; conquest and settlement did.
++
  The rhetoric inadvertently admits the truth of ownership and establishment.
  Explanation: To claim theft is to admit transfer of possession. By their own words, America is a White nation.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="If America was stolen, leave it."}}
--**Claim: **America was stolen from Indians.
--**Rebuttal:**
++Claim: America was stolen from Indians.
++Rebuttal:
--* If occupation is illegitimate, the moral solution is to vacate stolen land.
--* Those who denounce Whites while living here prove they do not believe their own claim.
++If occupation is illegitimate, the moral solution is to vacate stolen land.
++Those who denounce Whites while living here prove they do not believe their own claim.
++
  Consistency would demand that anti-White activists leave America entirely.
  Explanation: Hypocrisy shows their aim is not justice but targeting Whites.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="Welfare argument is irrelevant."}}
--**Claim: **Most people on welfare are White.
--**Rebuttal:**
++Claim: Most people on welfare are White.
++Rebuttal:
--* Welfare statistics do not justify demographic replacement.
--* Whites paying into the system far exceed non-Whites, meaning redistribution favors others.
++Welfare statistics do not justify demographic replacement.
++Whites paying into the system far exceed non-Whites, meaning redistribution favors others.
++
  Poverty does not make a people disposable.
  Explanation: Welfare arguments are red herrings; they distract from the core issue of survival.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="Whites have no culture."}}
--**Claim:** Whites have no culture.
--**Rebuttal:**
++Claim: Whites have no culture.
++Rebuttal:
--* Western civilization is one of the richest cultural traditions in history.
--* Claiming a people “doesn’t exist” is a known genocidal tactic.
++Western civilization is one of the richest cultural traditions in history.
++Claiming a people “doesn’t exist” is a known genocidal tactic.
++
  Denying identity is a step toward justifying elimination.
  Explanation: Delegitimizing culture is psychological warfare. It is proof of genocidal intent.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="Globalists vs White genocide."}}
--**Claim: **Globalists are the real enemy, focus on them.
--**Rebuttal:**
++Claim: Globalists are the real enemy, focus on them.
++Rebuttal:
--* Globalists are dangerous, but they target Whites specifically for elimination.
--* White nations must first secure survival before joining broader struggles.
++Globalists are dangerous, but they target Whites specifically for elimination.
++White nations must first secure survival before joining broader struggles.
++
  Concern trolling about “globalists” is used to divert attention from White genocide.
  Explanation: Global battles cannot be fought if Whites are erased. Survival comes before coalition.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="Europe is the White homeland."}}
--**Claim: **Whites must go back to Europe.
--**Rebuttal:**
++Claim: Whites must go back to Europe.
++Rebuttal:
  By that logic, all non-Whites should leave Europe.