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Changes for page Common Arguments

Last modified by Ryan C on 2025/08/18 01:13

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@@ -475,11 +475,12 @@
  {{expandable summary="We can't alienate potential non-white voters."}}
  **Claim**: We must avoid alienating potential non-white voters.
  **Rebuttal:**
--Appeasing non-white voters cannot come at the expense of White survival.
--Political strategies do not justify policies that enable or excuse White demographic replacement.
--A policy that alienates Whites in their own countries is inherently illegitimate, regardless of electoral calculus.
--Explanation: Framing White survival as secondary to vote-getting assumes that demographics are expendable for politics. Survival is not negotiable; “votes” cannot justify population displacement or replacement.
++* Appeasing non-white voters cannot come at the expense of White survival.
++* Political strategies do not justify policies that enable or excuse White demographic replacement.
++* A policy that alienates Whites in their own countries is inherently illegitimate, regardless of electoral calculus.
++
++**Explanation:** Framing White survival as secondary to vote-getting assumes that demographics are expendable for politics. Survival is not negotiable; “votes” cannot justify population displacement or replacement.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="Whites stole America."}}
@@ -499,9 +499,10 @@
  * If land ownership is illegitimate, then no one can accuse Whites of stealing.
  * If land can be stolen, then borders and ownership clearly exist, making conquest legitimate.
++* Anti-White rhetoric contradicts itself depending on which argument is convenient.
--Anti-White rhetoric contradicts itself depending on which argument is convenient.
--Explanation: This reveals the agenda: delegitimizing White presence regardless of logic. It is not a principled stance, but a targeted attack.
++**Explanation:**
++This reveals the agenda: delegitimizing White presence regardless of logic. It is not a principled stance, but a targeted attack.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="Conquest is universal, Whites have equal right."}}
@@ -510,91 +510,83 @@
  * Conquest is how nearly all nations formed, across all races.
  * Whites are singled out while non-White conquests (Turks in Constantinople, Bantus in southern Africa) are ignored.
++* If conquest is universal, Whites’ claim is as legitimate as anyone else’s.
--If conquest is universal, Whites’ claim is as legitimate as anyone else’s.
--Explanation: History cannot be selectively weaponized only against Whites.
++**Explanation: **
++History cannot be selectively weaponized only against Whites.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="Saying Whites stole America admits it is White."}}
--Claim: Whites stole America.
--Rebuttal:
++**Claim: **Whites stole America.
++**Rebuttal:**
--If Whites stole it, then it is by definition a White country now.
++* If Whites stole it, then it is by definition a White country now.
++* Diversity did not “steal” America; conquest and settlement did.
--Diversity did not “steal” America; conquest and settlement did.
--
++**Explanation:**
  The rhetoric inadvertently admits the truth of ownership and establishment.
  Explanation: To claim theft is to admit transfer of possession. By their own words, America is a White nation.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="If America was stolen, leave it."}}
--Claim: America was stolen from Indians.
--Rebuttal:
++**Claim: **America was stolen from Indians.
++**Rebuttal:**
--If occupation is illegitimate, the moral solution is to vacate stolen land.
++* If occupation is illegitimate, the moral solution is to vacate stolen land.
++* Those who denounce Whites while living here prove they do not believe their own claim.
++* Consistency would demand that anti-White activists leave America entirely.
--Those who denounce Whites while living here prove they do not believe their own claim.
--
--Consistency would demand that anti-White activists leave America entirely.
++**Explanation:**
  Explanation: Hypocrisy shows their aim is not justice but targeting Whites.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="Welfare argument is irrelevant."}}
--Claim: Most people on welfare are White.
--Rebuttal:
++**Claim: **Most people on welfare are White.
++**Rebuttal:**
--Welfare statistics do not justify demographic replacement.
++* Welfare statistics do not justify demographic replacement.
++* Whites paying into the system far exceed non-Whites, meaning redistribution favors others.
++* Poverty does not make a people disposable.
--Whites paying into the system far exceed non-Whites, meaning redistribution favors others.
--Poverty does not make a people disposable.
--Explanation: Welfare arguments are red herrings; they distract from the core issue of survival.
++**Explanation:**
++Welfare arguments are red herrings; they distract from the core issue of survival.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="Whites have no culture."}}
--Claim: Whites have no culture.
--Rebuttal:
++**Claim:** Whites have no culture.
++**Rebuttal:**
--Western civilization is one of the richest cultural traditions in history.
++* Western civilization is one of the richest cultural traditions in history.
++* Claiming a people “doesn’t exist” is a known genocidal tactic.
++* Denying identity is a step toward justifying elimination.
--Claiming a people “doesn’t exist” is a known genocidal tactic.
--
--Denying identity is a step toward justifying elimination.
++**Explanation:**
  Explanation: Delegitimizing culture is psychological warfare. It is proof of genocidal intent.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="Globalists vs White genocide."}}
--Claim: Globalists are the real enemy, focus on them.
--Rebuttal:
++**Claim: **Globalists are the real enemy, focus on them.
++**Rebuttal:**
--Globalists are dangerous, but they target Whites specifically for elimination.
++* Globalists are dangerous, but they target Whites specifically for elimination.
++* White nations must first secure survival before joining broader struggles.
++* Concern trolling about “globalists” is used to divert attention from White genocide
--White nations must first secure survival before joining broader struggles.
--
--Concern trolling about “globalists” is used to divert attention from White genocide.
++**Explanation:**
  Explanation: Global battles cannot be fought if Whites are erased. Survival comes before coalition.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="Europe is the White homeland."}}
--Claim: Whites must go back to Europe.
--Rebuttal:
++**Claim: **Whites must go back to Europe.
++**Rebuttal:**
--By that logic, all non-Whites should leave Europe.
++* By that logic, all non-Whites should leave Europe.
++* Should Turks leave Constantinople? Should Bantus vacate southern Africa? Should tribes vacate lands they conquered?
++* Conquest and migration are universal; only Whites are told to leave.
++* Explanation: The “go back” demand is not about fairness, but about dispossessing Whites uniquely. Do you think all non-whites should leave Europe?
--Should Turks leave Constantinople? Should Bantus vacate southern Africa? Should tribes vacate lands they conquered?
--
--Conquest and migration are universal; only Whites are told to leave.
--Explanation: The “go back” demand is not about fairness, but about dispossessing Whites uniquely.
++**Explanation:**
++Do you think all non-Siberians should leave America?
++All races have conquered land. Whites have as much right to land they conquered as every other race. Should Turks give Constantinople back to the white people they stole it from? Should Congoids give back the land they stole from Capoids in southern Africa? Should Ojibwe give back land they stole from Lakota?
  {{/expandable}}
--
--{{expandable summary="Conquest is consistent across races."}}
--Claim: Whites stole land, unlike others.
--Rebuttal:
--
--Turks stole Constantinople from Whites.
--
--Bantus stole southern Africa from Capoids.
--
--Ojibwe stole from Lakota, who stole from others.
--Explanation: Conquest is universal. Singling out Whites exposes bias, not principle.
--{{/expandable}}