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Changes for page Common Arguments

Last modified by Ryan C on 2025/08/18 01:13

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  {{expandable summary="Would Christ turn away sufferers?"}}
--**Claim:**It's not Chrtistianlike to prioritize race
++**Claim: **It's not Chrtistianlike to prioritize race
  **Rebuttal:**
  * Aren't Jews Gods chosen people? Didn't he give them Israel?
@@ -475,124 +475,104 @@
  {{expandable summary="We can't alienate potential non-white voters."}}
  **Claim**: We must avoid alienating potential non-white voters.
  **Rebuttal:**
--*Appeasing non-white voters cannot come at the expense of White survival.
--*Political strategies do not justify policies that enable or excuse White demographic replacement.
++Appeasing non-white voters cannot come at the expense of White survival.
++Political strategies do not justify policies that enable or excuse White demographic replacement.
  A policy that alienates Whites in their own countries is inherently illegitimate, regardless of electoral calculus.
  Explanation: Framing White survival as secondary to vote-getting assumes that demographics are expendable for politics. Survival is not negotiable; “votes” cannot justify population displacement or replacement.
  {{/expandable}}
--{{expandable summary="“For votes” doesn’t justify genocidal policies."}}
--Claim: Vote-getting justifies demographic policies.
--Rebuttal:
--
--A vote motive does not excuse replacement or dispossession.
--
--No political system is legitimate if it requires destroying its founding people.
--
--Claiming “votes” is a distraction from the reality of demographic attack.
--Explanation: Political expediency is not a moral shield. Policies leading to White decline remain genocidal regardless of intent.
--{{/expandable}}
--
  {{expandable summary="Whites stole America."}}
--Claim: Whites stole America.
--Rebuttal:
++**Claim**: Whites stole America.
++**Rebuttal:**
--All peoples have conquered land; conquest is universal in history.
++* All peoples have conquered land; conquest is universal in history.
++* Native tribes themselves displaced, fought, and exterminated one another long before Europeans arrived.
--Native tribes themselves displaced, fought, and exterminated one another long before Europeans arrived.
--
  Calling White conquest “theft” implies illegitimacy, but never applies that label to non-Whites doing the same.
  Explanation: If conquest voids legitimacy, then no nation or people can claim land. Singling out Whites is hypocrisy.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="Contradictory anti-White logic on land and borders."}}
--Claim: Whites stole land, yet borders don’t exist.
--Rebuttal:
++**Claim: **Whites stole land, yet borders don’t exist.
++**Rebuttal:**
--If land ownership is illegitimate, then no one can accuse Whites of stealing.
++* If land ownership is illegitimate, then no one can accuse Whites of stealing.
++* If land can be stolen, then borders and ownership clearly exist, making conquest legitimate.
--If land can be stolen, then borders and ownership clearly exist, making conquest legitimate.
--
  Anti-White rhetoric contradicts itself depending on which argument is convenient.
  Explanation: This reveals the agenda: delegitimizing White presence regardless of logic. It is not a principled stance, but a targeted attack.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="Conquest is universal, Whites have equal right."}}
--Claim: Whites conquered America, making it illegitimate.
--Rebuttal:
++**Claim: **Whites conquered America, making it illegitimate.
++**Rebuttal:**
--Conquest is how nearly all nations formed, across all races.
++* Conquest is how nearly all nations formed, across all races.
++* Whites are singled out while non-White conquests (Turks in Constantinople, Bantus in southern Africa) are ignored.
--Whites are singled out while non-White conquests (Turks in Constantinople, Bantus in southern Africa) are ignored.
--
  If conquest is universal, Whites’ claim is as legitimate as anyone else’s.
  Explanation: History cannot be selectively weaponized only against Whites.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="Saying Whites stole America admits it is White."}}
--Claim: Whites stole America.
--Rebuttal:
++**Claim: **Whites stole America.
++**Rebuttal:**
--If Whites stole it, then it is by definition a White country now.
++* If Whites stole it, then it is by definition a White country now.
++* Diversity did not “steal” America; conquest and settlement did.
--Diversity did not “steal” America; conquest and settlement did.
--
  The rhetoric inadvertently admits the truth of ownership and establishment.
  Explanation: To claim theft is to admit transfer of possession. By their own words, America is a White nation.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="If America was stolen, leave it."}}
--Claim: America was stolen from Indians.
--Rebuttal:
++**Claim: **America was stolen from Indians.
++**Rebuttal:**
--If occupation is illegitimate, the moral solution is to vacate stolen land.
++* If occupation is illegitimate, the moral solution is to vacate stolen land.
++* Those who denounce Whites while living here prove they do not believe their own claim.
--Those who denounce Whites while living here prove they do not believe their own claim.
--
  Consistency would demand that anti-White activists leave America entirely.
  Explanation: Hypocrisy shows their aim is not justice but targeting Whites.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="Welfare argument is irrelevant."}}
--Claim: Most people on welfare are White.
--Rebuttal:
++**Claim: **Most people on welfare are White.
++**Rebuttal:**
--Welfare statistics do not justify demographic replacement.
++* Welfare statistics do not justify demographic replacement.
++* Whites paying into the system far exceed non-Whites, meaning redistribution favors others.
--Whites paying into the system far exceed non-Whites, meaning redistribution favors others.
--
  Poverty does not make a people disposable.
  Explanation: Welfare arguments are red herrings; they distract from the core issue of survival.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="Whites have no culture."}}
--Claim: Whites have no culture.
--Rebuttal:
++**Claim:** Whites have no culture.
++**Rebuttal:**
--Western civilization is one of the richest cultural traditions in history.
++* Western civilization is one of the richest cultural traditions in history.
++* Claiming a people “doesn’t exist” is a known genocidal tactic.
--Claiming a people “doesn’t exist” is a known genocidal tactic.
--
  Denying identity is a step toward justifying elimination.
  Explanation: Delegitimizing culture is psychological warfare. It is proof of genocidal intent.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="Globalists vs White genocide."}}
--Claim: Globalists are the real enemy, focus on them.
--Rebuttal:
++**Claim: **Globalists are the real enemy, focus on them.
++**Rebuttal:**
--Globalists are dangerous, but they target Whites specifically for elimination.
++* Globalists are dangerous, but they target Whites specifically for elimination.
++* White nations must first secure survival before joining broader struggles.
--White nations must first secure survival before joining broader struggles.
--
  Concern trolling about “globalists” is used to divert attention from White genocide.
  Explanation: Global battles cannot be fought if Whites are erased. Survival comes before coalition.
  {{/expandable}}
  {{expandable summary="Europe is the White homeland."}}
--Claim: Whites must go back to Europe.
--Rebuttal:
++**Claim: **Whites must go back to Europe.
++**Rebuttal:**
  By that logic, all non-Whites should leave Europe.