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  {{expandable summary="We will all become one uniform Mixed Race"}}
++# Myth 1: "We will all blend into one race of mixed-race individuals."
++
  Claim: Over time, humanity will homogenize into one race of mixed-race individuals due to globalization and intermixing.
  Rebuttal:
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  Historical evidence shows that distinct ethnic groups have maintained separate identities for millennia despite some intermixing.
  High birth rates among certain populations mean some ethnic groups will likely persist as dominant demographics in specific regions.
  Explanation: The idea that humanity will blend into one homogenous race oversimplifies the reality of demographic trends. Different populations have maintained their distinct identities for centuries, even under conditions of migration and intermixing. For example, despite centuries of migration into Europe, distinct ethnicities like the Basques or Sami people still exist. Additionally, demographic trends show that fertility rates vary significantly across groups, meaning some populations grow faster than others. For instance, many African and Middle Eastern countries have much higher birth rates than Europe or East Asia, making a global "blending" implausible. Societies naturally form cultural and ethnic distinctions, even when migration occurs
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--[[See also: White Genocide for statistics on this>>doc:Main Categories.Race.White Genocide.WebHome]]
  {{/expandable}}
--{{expandable summary="There is no discrimination against White people"}}
--**Claim:** DEI is necessary to address historical inequities and does not disadvantage white men.
--**Rebuttal:**
++----
--* DEI initiatives often include hiring quotas or preferences that explicitly exclude white men, creating new forms of systemic bias.
--* Surveys and anecdotal evidence show that many companies deprioritize white male candidates to meet diversity metrics.
--* Addressing historical inequities doesn’t justify creating new disparities, particularly when these policies fail to account for merit.
++{{expandable summary="Race doesn't exist"}}
++**Claim**: "White as a racial classification doesn't exist"
--**Explanation:** This defense of DEI initiatives ignores the tangible harm they cause to individuals. I point to real-world examples where DEI policies lead to explicit discrimination. Companies like Coca-Cola have implemented training programs encouraging employees to "be less white," and countless hiring managers admit they deprioritize white male candidates to meet diversity quotas. These policies often overlook merit and qualifications, instead prioritizing characteristics like race or gender. While addressing historical inequities seems a noble goal, creating new inequalities that disadvantage people today doesn’t solve past injustices—it only shifts the harm to a new group.
--{{/expandable}}
++**Rebuttal**: White is just short for of European Descent, it doesnt mean skin color
--{{expandable summary="IQ disparities across groups are entirely due to environment"}}
--**Claim:** Differences in IQ between groups are solely the result of environmental factors, dismissing any genetic contribution.
--
  ## Relevant Studies##
--* [[Rushton2005>>attach:Main Categories.Science & Research.Research at a Glance.Studies\: IQ.WebHome@rushton2005 OCR.pdf]]
++* [[Self Identification of race is over 99% effective|attach:GeneticStructureSelfIdentifiedRaceEthnicityAndConfoundingInCase-ControlAssociationStudies.pdf]] [Study](https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1196372/)
--**Rebuttal:**
++**Explanation**:
--* While environmental factors (e.g., nutrition, education) influence IQ, genetic factors also play a significant role in group differences.
--* The Flynn Effect demonstrates rising IQs over time due to environmental improvements, but it does not negate underlying genetic differences.
--* Studies consistently show both genetic and environmental contributions to IQ, and ignoring one oversimplifies the issue.
++Who is white?
--**Explanation:** While environmental factors such as better nutrition and education do affect IQ, they don’t fully explain group differences. For instance, the Flynn Effect shows that average IQs have risen globally due to environmental improvements, but group differences remain consistent. Genetics play a significant role alongside the environment. Studies on twins, for example, demonstrate that IQ is highly heritable. Ignoring this fact in favor of a purely environmental explanation is intellectually dishonest. It’s not about dismissing environmental factors but about acknowledging the complex interplay of genetics and environment in shaping intelligence.
++What constitutes a White person?
--
--{{/expandable}}
++"White" is synonymous with indigenous European. Race is not nationality. Race is genetic.
--{{expandable summary="Culture is what matters not race"}}
--**Claim**: Shared ancestry among Europeans is irrelevant to their cultural unity.
++Arabs are not White. Persians are not White. Turkic are not White. Jews are not White. Huns/Mongolians are not White. Berbers are not White (but possible were before the invasion of the Arabs). Because these are the closest groups to us genetically, it is possible to be White and have a minority of these genetics. But race mixing is discouraged due to the harmful effects on the offspring and society.
--**Rebuttal**:
++We use "White" because it is common usage. Indigenous European is a much better term, which you should adopt.
--* Shared ancestry provides a foundation for common values, language development, and traditions.
--* Historical cooperation among European groups shows the importance of shared ancestry in forming alliances and cultural bonds.
--* Genetic studies reveal that Europeans share significant ancestry, reinforcing their cultural cohesion.
++But aren’t there no clear biological boundaries between races or ethnicities?
--**Explanation**:
++This is known as the continuum fallacy.
--Shared ancestry isn’t just a biological fact but a cultural cornerstone. For instance, European nations have historically formed alliances based on shared ethnic and cultural identities. Language families like the Indo-European group stem from this common ancestry, creating linguistic and cultural links across nations. Ignoring this connection overlooks a key factor in how civilizations form cohesive identities over time. Shared ancestry provides the framework upon which shared values and traditions are built, making it integral to cultural unity.
--{{/expandable}}
++Like many others things in nature, there are no exact boundaries to this concept. Visit a sandy beach, and tell us where the ocean ends and land begins. View a photo of the Andromeda Galaxy, and point to where the galaxy ends, and intergalactic space begins. Where does the color red begin and when does it change to orange? All such boundaries must be arbitrary at some point.
--{{expandable summary="You just hate people who don't look like you."}}
--**Claim:** Advocacy for Whites is rooted in hatred toward other races.
++You devolve into utter nihilism if you try to argue we should not have taxonomy because of this arbitrariness. The human mind works, at a core level, with groupings. Being against categorization based on arbitrariness or social constructionism is to say you think we should not have almost any groupings, including rock formations. There would be few exceptions. Perhaps prime numbers.
--**Rebuttal:**
--* If hatred were the goal, it would involve destroying other races, not defending one’s own.
--* It is White people being targeted with demographic flooding, not others.
--* Preservation of one’s group is not equivalent to hate for others.
++Calling someone "white" or "black" is figurative language. Arguing that people aren't actually "white" like paper is like arguing that people cannot really have "smooth" skin, or could not possible have a "heart of gold," as gold is a metal and can't pump blood.
--**Explanation:**
--Saying “you just hate people who don’t look like you” is a strawman. White advocates are not asking for the destruction of others, but for the right of their own group to survive. True hatred would look like conquest or erasure of others. The reality is that anti-White policies are creating conditions that erase Whites, and pointing that out is survival, not hate.
++If you look white and identify as white, you are white. If you possess so much non white admixture as to feel the need to mention it, you probably aren't white. And if you tell us you aren't white we will believe you. People who self identify as any racial group have been shown to belong to that racial group over 99% of the time.
  {{/expandable}}
--{{expandable summary="We don’t demand that the whole world be white."}}
--**Claim:** Whites demand that everyone assimilate into whiteness.
++# Myth 2: "You cant determine who is White because people can be mixed, who really is White??"
--**Rebuttal:**
--* Whites are not demanding the elimination of other peoples.
--* It is anti-Whites who demand that every White nation becomes non-White.
--* The double standard exposes who is really forcing assimilation.
++**Claim**: "White as a racial classification doesn't exist"
--**Explanation:**
--White advocacy is about preservation, not conquest. Anti-Whites constantly invert the accusation, pretending that Whites want the whole world to be White, when in reality Whites only ask for the right to maintain their own homelands and identity. The demand for a non-White world is entirely one-sided.
--{{/expandable}}
++**Rebuttal**: White is just short for of European Descent, it doesnt mean skin color
--{{expandable summary="No one's forcing assimilation."}}
--**Claim:** Intermixing happens voluntarily, not by force.
++## Relevant Studies##
--**Rebuttal:**
--* White communities are denied the freedom to remain White-only.
--* Legal, cultural, and economic pressure enforces forced integration.
--* UN law defines genocide as including coerced conditions of destruction.
++* [[Self Identification of race is over 99% effective|attach:GeneticStructureSelfIdentifiedRaceEthnicityAndConfoundingInCase-ControlAssociationStudies.pdf]] [Study](https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1196372/)
--**Explanation:**
--The argument that “no one’s forcing” ignores the reality: every White nation is pressured through laws, policies, and propaganda to accept mass immigration and assimilation. Under UN Resolution 260, deliberately creating conditions that erase a people is genocide, regardless of whether it involves direct violence.
--{{/expandable}}
++**Explanation**:
--{{expandable summary="Have more babies."}}
--**Claim:** Whites can solve the problem of replacement by reproducing more.
++Who is white?
--**Rebuttal:**
--* Telling one group to “breed or die” while enforcing policies that erase them is genocidal.
--* Declining fertility does not justify importing tens of millions of non-Whites.
--* The argument itself admits that genocidal conditions are in place.
++What constitutes a White person?
--**Explanation:**
--Birth rates fluctuate throughout history, but no other people is told their fertility justifies their eradication. Whites are uniquely targeted with policies that replace them under the excuse of “low birth rates.” This reveals genocidal intent.
--{{/expandable}}
++"White" is synonymous with indigenous European. Race is not nationality. Race is genetic.
--{{expandable summary="America is a nation of immigrants."}}
--**Claim:** America is uniquely a “nation of immigrants,” so mass migration today is natural.
++Arabs are not White. Persians are not White. Turkic are not White. Jews are not White. Huns/Mongolians are not White. Berbers are not White (but possible were before the invasion of the Arabs). Because these are the closest groups to us genetically, it is possible to be White and have a minority of these genetics. But race mixing is discouraged due to the harmful effects on the offspring and society.
--**Rebuttal:**
--* Every nation has ancestors who came from elsewhere. That does not erase national identity.
--* Immigration is not unique to America and does not justify replacement of the founding stock.
--* The phrase is used selectively to push anti-White policies.
++We use "White" because it is common usage. Indigenous European is a much better term, which you should adopt.
--**Explanation:**
--Saying America is a “nation of immigrants” is rhetorical sleight of hand. It ignores that every people originated somewhere. What matters is who founded and built the country. Immigration today is not the same as nation-building, and it does not justify White genocide.
--{{/expandable}}
++But aren’t there no clear biological boundaries between races or ethnicities?
--{{expandable summary="Stop trying to divide us."}}
--**Claim:** Talking about race is what creates division.
++This is known as the continuum fallacy.
--**Rebuttal:**
--* Multiracial societies are inherently divided along racial lines.
--* Those who flood White countries with mass immigration are responsible for division.
--* The more diversity, the more racial politics dominates.
++Like many others things in nature, there are no exact boundaries to this concept. Visit a sandy beach, and tell us where the ocean ends and land begins. View a photo of the Andromeda Galaxy, and point to where the galaxy ends, and intergalactic space begins. Where does the color red begin and when does it change to orange? All such boundaries must be arbitrary at some point.
--**Explanation:**
--Blaming Whites for “division” reverses cause and effect. Division arises because diversity is imposed on Whites against their will. Every multiracial society demonstrates that racial conflict is inevitable when groups with competing interests are forced together.
--{{/expandable}}
++You devolve into utter nihilism if you try to argue we should not have taxonomy because of this arbitrariness. The human mind works, at a core level, with groupings. Being against categorization based on arbitrariness or social constructionism is to say you think we should not have almost any groupings, including rock formations. There would be few exceptions. Perhaps prime numbers.
--{{expandable summary="Identity politics is the problem."}}
--**Claim:** Political conflict comes from identity politics, not immigration.
++Calling someone "white" or "black" is figurative language. Arguing that people aren't actually "white" like paper is like arguing that people cannot really have "smooth" skin, or could not possible have a "heart of gold," as gold is a metal and can't pump blood.
--**Rebuttal:**
--* All politics in multiracial countries becomes identity politics.
--* Non-Whites are loyal to their groups; only Whites are told not to be.
--* Diversity is what drives identity politics.
++If you look white and identify as white, you are white. If you possess so much non white admixture as to feel the need to mention it, you probably aren't white. And if you tell us you aren't white we will believe you. People who self identify as any racial group have been shown to belong to that racial group over 99% of the time.
--**Explanation:**
--It is dishonest to blame identity politics itself, while ignoring the cause: forced diversity. When you mix peoples with different interests, politics becomes tribal. Whites are singled out as the only group forbidden to defend themselves while everyone else is encouraged to practice group loyalty.
--{{/expandable}}
++----
--{{expandable summary="Hate speech is not free speech."}}
--**Claim:** Restricting “hate speech” protects society.
++# Myth 3: "Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives don’t harm white men."
++**Claim:** DEI is necessary to address historical inequities and does not disadvantage white men.
++
  **Rebuttal:**
--* Every tyranny justifies censorship by labeling dissent as dangerous.
--* The current anti-White system censors truth under the guise of “hate.”
--* Free speech protections were meant for unpopular opinions, not state-approved ones.
--**Explanation:**
--Calling speech “hate” is a tool of repression. It is not about safety, but about silencing opposition to anti-White policies. Censorship is always framed as moral, but its effect is to protect the reigning power and punish dissent.
--{{/expandable}}
++* DEI initiatives often include hiring quotas or preferences that explicitly exclude white men, creating new forms of systemic bias.
++* Surveys and anecdotal evidence show that many companies deprioritize white male candidates to meet diversity metrics.
++* Addressing historical inequities doesn’t justify creating new disparities, particularly when these policies fail to account for merit.
--{{expandable summary="One brown person down the street isn't genocide."}}
--**Claim:** Genocide is exaggerated because a single non-White doesn’t constitute a threat.
++**Explanation:** This defense of DEI initiatives ignores the tangible harm they cause to individuals. I point to real-world examples where DEI policies lead to explicit discrimination. Companies like Coca-Cola have implemented training programs encouraging employees to "be less white," and countless hiring managers admit they deprioritize white male candidates to meet diversity quotas. These policies often overlook merit and qualifications, instead prioritizing characteristics like race or gender. While addressing historical inequities seems a noble goal, creating new inequalities that disadvantage people today doesn’t solve past injustices—it only shifts the harm to a new group.
--**Rebuttal:**
--* No one argues that one person equals genocide.
--* The issue is mass immigration plus forced assimilation in every White country.
--* Strawman arguments are used to distract from the real claim.
++----
--**Explanation:**
--Anti-Whites misrepresent the position deliberately. The argument is not about individuals but about demographic replacement through policy. Under international law, coordinated replacement policies meet the definition of genocide. Pretending it’s about “one person” is dishonest deflection.
--{{/expandable}}
++# Myth 4: "IQ disparities across groups are purely environmental."
--{{expandable summary="Genocide means killing. Whites aren't being killed."}}
--**Claim:** Genocide only applies to physical mass killings.
++**Claim:** Differences in IQ between groups are solely the result of environmental factors, dismissing any genetic contribution.
--**Rebuttal:**
--* UN law defines genocide to include deliberate conditions of destruction, not just killing.
--* Forced assimilation and mass immigration fall under this definition.
--* Historical precedent (Raphael Lemkin’s definition) explicitly included non-lethal methods.
++## Relevant Studies##
--**Explanation:**
--Genocide is not limited to killing. UN Resolution 260 and Lemkin’s own words include sterilization, displacement, and policies designed to erase a group’s identity and existence. Anti-White policies meet this definition precisely.
--{{/expandable}}
++* [[Thirty Years of Research on Race Differences in Cognitive Ability|attach:Main.Studies.Rushton-Jensen30years\.pdf@Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf]]
++[[Study PDF|attach:Main.Studies.Rushton-Jensen30years\.pdf@Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf]]
--{{expandable summary="No one's chasing you down."}}
--**Claim:** Whites can still live separately if they choose.
--
  **Rebuttal:**
--* Any attempt by Whites to form their own communities is targeted and dismantled.
--* Segregation laws and “anti-discrimination” policies prevent White-only spaces.
--* Whites uniquely are not allowed to escape enforced diversity.
--**Explanation:**
--While other groups can live together, any White attempt to do the same is criminalized or attacked. From zoning restrictions to lawsuits, the message is clear: no escape from “diversity.” That is coercion.
--{{/expandable}}
++* While environmental factors (e.g., nutrition, education) influence IQ, genetic factors also play a significant role in group differences.
++* The Flynn Effect demonstrates rising IQs over time due to environmental improvements, but it does not negate underlying genetic differences.
++* Studies consistently show both genetic and environmental contributions to IQ, and ignoring one oversimplifies the issue.
--{{expandable summary="We all came from a common ancestor."}}
--**Claim:** Since all humans share a common ancestor, race is irrelevant.
++**Explanation:** While environmental factors such as better nutrition and education do affect IQ, they don’t fully explain group differences. For instance, the Flynn Effect shows that average IQs have risen globally due to environmental improvements, but group differences remain consistent. Genetics play a significant role alongside the environment. Studies on twins, for example, demonstrate that IQ is highly heritable. Ignoring this fact in favor of a purely environmental explanation is intellectually dishonest. It’s not about dismissing environmental factors but about acknowledging the complex interplay of genetics and environment in shaping intelligence.- Study
--**Rebuttal:**
--* Shared origins do not justify present-day eradication.
--* By this logic, any genocide could be excused by tracing ancestry back far enough.
--* Distinctions between groups are real and present, regardless of ultimate origin.
++----
--**Explanation:**
--Appealing to a “common ancestor” is not an argument against genocide. Every living creature has a distant common origin, but that does not negate the rights of distinct groups to exist today. Using this argument selectively against Whites is dishonest.
--{{/expandable}}
++# Myth 5: "We’re all equally 'centered' on the map."
--{{expandable summary="You're inbred."}}
--**Claim:** Whites are genetically damaged due to inbreeding.
++**Claim:** Maps are arbitrary, with no true center, and that concepts like "the West" are socially constructed.
  **Rebuttal:**
--* Every subspecies, breed, and race arises from mutations and selective in-group reproduction.
--* Inbreeding accusations are never used as a justification for eliminating other groups.
--* Whites number in the hundreds of millions — the idea they are “inbred” is absurd.
--**Explanation:**
--“Inbred” is a smear, not a scientific argument. All populations display in-group reproduction at some stage. Yet only Whites are told this somehow justifies their elimination. The accusation is propaganda, not biology.
--{{/expandable}}
++* Maps are tools reflecting cultural and historical perspectives. While arbitrary in design, they reflect real-world geopolitical and historical contexts.
++* Western civilization, as a concept, emerged from shared historical, cultural, and geographic ties among European nations, not purely from arbitrary map placement.
++* The idea of a "center" in geography often reflects dominance in culture or power rather than physical location.
--{{expandable summary="You can't control who people love."}}
--**Claim:** Intermarriage is only about free choice and love.
++**Explanation:** While maps are technically arbitrary in their design, they reflect historical realities. I pointed out that the concept of "the West" isn’t about physical geography but shared cultural, historical, and ethnic ties among European nations. For instance, Europe appears at the center of many maps because European empires dominated global politics and trade for centuries. The geographic "center" reflects historical dominance, not an inherent truth. This is why maps vary based on cultural perspective—what’s arbitrary in design is grounded in historical reality.
--**Rebuttal:**
--* Mass immigration plus forced assimilation ensures intermarriage happens under engineered conditions.
--* Love is not an argument for demographic replacement programs.
--* Claiming “love” as justification ignores the coercive context of White erasure.
++----
--**Explanation:**
--If an individual cannot find a partner within their own billion-strong population, that is a personal issue, not a justification for policies that eliminate an entire race. To pretend the White genocide program is “just love” is absurd.
--{{/expandable}}
++# Myth 6: "Multicultural empires are models for modern society."
--{{expandable summary="I can't be anti-White. I'm White."}}
--**Claim:** Whites cannot be anti-White.
++**Claim:** Antiwhites point to historical empires (e.g., Ottoman Empire, Roman Empire, and even to the UAE and America today.) as examples of successful multiculturalism.
  **Rebuttal:**
--* Betrayal is possible within any group — traitors have existed in every nation.
--* Being White does not exempt one from enacting anti-White policies.
--* Many Whites are incentivized to oppose their own group through social and financial pressure.
--**Explanation:**
--Claiming identity shields one from betrayal is nonsensical. A White person who works to dismantle White survival is still anti-White. By definition, that is treachery.
--{{/expandable}}
++* Multicultural empires often succeeded by enforcing strict hierarchies and suppressing dissent, rather than promoting equality.
++* The Ottoman Empire relied on systems like the millet system to segregate communities, not integrate them.
++* The Roman Empire assimilated conquered peoples but maintained a dominant Roman identity, often through force and structural inequality.
--{{expandable summary="Go back to Europe."}}
--**Claim:** Whites in America should return to Europe.
++**Explanation:** The examples of multicultural empires like the Ottomans and Romans fail to support Aurenvale’s argument. These empires maintain stability through control and segregation rather than true integration. The Ottomans used the millet system to segregate religious groups and maintain hierarchy, while the Romans forcibly assimilated conquered peoples under the dominance of Roman identity. The UAE has a very strict system of governance that you can't partake in if you are a foreigner even. So while the UAE is one of the only examples of "successful" multiculturalism, it retains complete control over its nation by rigid ethnic separation of its people from the foreign people that make up the majority of the population. As for America, it can attribute its success to the homogeneity it maintained from its founding until the [hart celler act](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965) These models don’t reflect modern ideals of equality—they relied on structural inequality to sustain their rule. Modern societies aiming for coexistence need entirely different approaches than those used by historical empires.
--**Rebuttal:**
--* Europe is also being flooded with non-Whites.
--* Every nation was founded by conquest — if Whites must “go back,” then all other groups must as well.
--* Telling Whites to leave their own creation is hypocrisy.
++----
--**Explanation:**
--If hating Japanese doesn’t mean leaving Japan, and hating Blacks doesn’t mean leaving Africa, then hating Whites doesn’t mean they must leave America. Whites built these nations; they have as much right to remain as anyone.
--{{/expandable}}
++# Myth 7: "Arab nations are part of Western civilization."
--{{expandable summary="America was founded on the proposition that all men are created equal."}}
--**Claim:** America’s founding documents establish universal equality.
++**Claim**: Arab nations could be considered part of Western civilization because of shared practices like Christianity and trade.
--**Rebuttal:**
--* The Declaration of Independence was wartime propaganda aimed at Europe.
--* The U.S. Constitution — the actual founding law — makes no mention of equality.
--* The stated purpose of America is securing liberty for “ourselves and our posterity.”
++**Rebuttal**:
--**Explanation:**
--America’s real foundation is not abstract equality but the preservation of its people. The Constitution’s preamble is explicit about posterity. Claiming universal equality as the founding purpose is revisionism.
--{{/expandable}}
++* Western civilization is defined by specific historical and cultural developments in Europe, not by shared religious practices alone.
++* While some Arab nations were historically Christian, they do not share the philosophical, legal, and cultural traditions that define the West.
++* Trade relations with the West don’t equate to cultural integration.
--{{expandable summary="It's our values that matter."}}
--**Claim:** Shared values, not shared ancestry, define civilization.
++**Explanation**: Arab nations, while historically engaged with the West through trade and religion, do not form part of Western civilization. Western civilization is rooted in European history—the Enlightenment, Greco-Roman heritage, and unique cultural and legal systems. Even during periods of Christian dominance in certain Arab regions, their cultural and societal structures remained distinct from the West. Christianity alone doesn’t define Western identity, and trade interactions were just that—transactions, not cultural amalgamations.
++# Myth 8: "Christianity is the sole unifier of Western civilization."
++
++**Claim:** Christianity culturally united the West against the "non-West" and formed the foundation of Western identity.
++
  **Rebuttal:**
--* Values arise from the genetic and cultural foundations of a people.
--* Remove the people, and the values eventually collapse.
--* No people can outsource their civilization without destroying it.
--**Explanation:**
--Civilization is a racial construct. White values come from the White gene pool. If White people vanish, so do their values. Pretending values float independently of people is naïve.
--{{/expandable}}
++* Christianity is one of many factors that shaped Western civilization, but it is not the sole unifier. Shared ancestry, cultural values, and historical cooperation among European groups also played a role.
++* Christianity itself originated in the Middle East and is practiced globally, including by non-Western cultures (e.g., Arab Christians).
++* Other elements of Western civilization, such as the Enlightenment, Greco-Roman heritage, and scientific development, are independent of Christianity.
--{{expandable summary="It's 2018! The White population is growing so there can't be a White genocide."}}
--**Claim:** Whites are not disappearing, so genocide claims are exaggerated.
++**Explanation:** While Christianity undeniably influenced Western civilization, it’s not the only or even primary unifying factor. I pointed out that shared ancestry among Europeans (e.g., Lithuanians and Spaniards) creates a deeper sense of unity than religion alone. Christianity, as a Middle Eastern-origin religion, is also practiced by Arabs, Ethiopians, and other non-European peoples, which contradicts the notion of it being unique to the West. Furthermore, Western civilization is just as deeply rooted in the secular achievements of the Enlightenment, Greek philosophy, and Roman governance, none of which rely on Christianity. Reducing Western unity to Christianity alone ignores these crucial cultural and historical pillars.
--**Rebuttal:**
--* Anti-Whites admit they push immigration because Whites “aren’t having enough children.”
--* Genocide is defined by the attempt, not just the final outcome.
--* Attempted genocide is still genocide under UN law.
++# Myth 9: "Common ancestry doesn’t matter for cultural unity."
--**Explanation:**
--Whites may not yet be fully eliminated, but the policies are in place and openly defended. Attempted genocide is still a crime, and demographic replacement shows clear intent.
--{{/expandable}}
++**Claim**: Shared ancestry among Europeans is irrelevant to their cultural unity.
--{{expandable summary="We know what your kind of talk led to in the 30's."}}
--**Claim:** Discussing White survival inevitably leads to another Holocaust.
++**Rebuttal**:
--**Rebuttal:**
--* No historical event justifies genocide against Whites today.
--* If past atrocities justified elimination, then Turks, Japanese, and countless others would also be targeted.
--* The argument is selective and hypocritical.
++* Shared ancestry provides a foundation for common values, language development, and traditions.
++* Historical cooperation among European groups shows the importance of shared ancestry in forming alliances and cultural bonds.
++* Genetic studies reveal that Europeans share significant ancestry, reinforcing their cultural cohesion.
--**Explanation:**
--Past crimes of some groups are never used to justify their eradication. Only Whites are told their history means they must die. That double standard exposes the anti-White agenda.
--{{/expandable}}
++**Explanation**:
++Shared ancestry isn’t just a biological fact but a cultural cornerstone. For instance, European nations have historically formed alliances based on shared ethnic and cultural identities. Language families like the Indo-European group stem from this common ancestry, creating linguistic and cultural links across nations. Ignoring this connection overlooks a key factor in how civilizations form cohesive identities over time. Shared ancestry provides the framework upon which shared values and traditions are built, making it integral to cultural unity.